# Markups control points list window expandable? (v4.11.20200930)

**URL:** <https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464>\
**Category:** Support\
**Tags:** markups-fiducials\
**Created:** [November 6, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464 "2020-11-06T22:25:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Greydon\_Gilmore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/greydon_gilmore/32/6863_2.png) [@Greydon\_Gilmore](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Greydon_Gilmore)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464/1 "2020-11-06T22:25:41Z")

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Hello,

I am working on the most recent stable release and have noticed the control points list window, within the Markups module, is more condensed then previous versions.

Is there a way to expand this window to be able to see more control points at one time?

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/3/1/3180cf9d51ee23f0fb7f284353666f1fc7aefc41.png)

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Greydon\_Gilmore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/greydon_gilmore/32/6863_2.png) [@Greydon\_Gilmore](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Greydon_Gilmore)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464/2 "2021-03-17T18:20:00Z")

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I wanted to follow-up on this. Is there any way for me to modify the number of rows in the Markups fiducial list? Currently I only see a maximum of 7 rows.

Greydon

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**Author:** ![muratmaga](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/muratmaga/32/3622_2.png) [@muratmaga](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/muratmaga)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464/3 "2021-03-17T19:17:35Z")

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I agree it would be nice to able to increase/decrease the control point table. meanwhile, did you try using the scroll bar next to it to see the additional points?

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**Author:** ![Greydon\_Gilmore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/greydon_gilmore/32/6863_2.png) [@Greydon\_Gilmore](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Greydon_Gilmore)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464/4 "2021-03-17T19:31:19Z")

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Yes, I’ve been scrolling but sometimes a patient may have \>100 points… scrolling becomes tedious with only 7 points displayed at a time.

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**Author:** ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464/5 "2021-03-17T19:55:38Z")

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Could you describe what is your overall goal and particular needs are? Slicer core modules are very generic, they expose all possible options, and therefore they are complex, take a lot of space, and not optimized for specific use cases.

If we cannot figure out a solution that works well for your use case but also preserves generality of the core Markups module then you can create a landmarking module with fine-tuned user interface for your particular task. It is very easy to put together such modules, because you can use high-level widgets that Slicer provides using a visual user interface editor.

I think something is already being developed in SlicerMorph, but it may or may not be optimal for your workflow. @muratmaga is there a landmarking module in SlicerMorph? What are its main use cases?

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**Author:** ![Greydon\_Gilmore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/greydon_gilmore/32/6863_2.png) [@Greydon\_Gilmore](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Greydon_Gilmore)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464/6 "2021-03-17T20:04:00Z")

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Could the bottom of the markups panel contain a `QSplitter` to allow a user to expose a greater number of markups rows at one time. In previous versions of Slicer the Markups panel would allow a greater number of points to be viewed at one time:

 ![old_behaviour](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/0/c/0c5a5bb6a6fc54127c5073dc4ed941ad08949797.png)

Seems like in the new markups iteration there is a lot of empty space.

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**Author:** ![muratmaga](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/muratmaga/32/3622_2.png) [@muratmaga](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/muratmaga)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/markups-control-points-list-window-expandable-v4-11-20200930/14464/7 "2021-03-17T20:06:13Z")

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> [@lassoan](#):
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> I think something is already being developed in SlicerMorph, but it may or may not be optimal for your workflow. @muratmaga is there a landmarking module in SlicerMorph? What are its main use cases?

Currently we do not have a ‘landmarking’ module in SLicerMorph, we still use and teach how to use the core Markups module for anatomical LM collection.

@smrolfe is working on the ability to create blank LMs and be able to feed in a LM template to improve the experience. Once that’s done, we might visit the issue of having a simpler LM module with much fewer of the display features exposed (possibly with adjustable subject hiearrchy box and control table).
