# Segmentation resolution... problem

**URL:** https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [November 12, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110 "2019-11-12T02:02:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author: ![NoobForSlicer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/noobforslicer/32/10900_2.png) [@NoobForSlicer](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/NoobForSlicer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/1 "2019-11-12T02:02:12Z")

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So I have a volume with horrible resolution to work with… Fine…

I want to segment it manually so it looks somewhat better in 3D.

Well, I crop the volume and whether I reduce the spacing scale or increase it, nothing changes…  
New cropped volume with new segmentation created for it, still paints exact same pixes and it is so ugly…it looks like minecraft.

How to solve this?

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### Author: ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/2 "2019-11-12T02:38:36Z")

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Make sure you create a new segmentation (or update the segmentation geometry) after you create the higher-resolution volumes. After thresholding you need to apply smoothing. Or, you can segment on a number of slices and use Fill between slices to interpolate smoothly between them.

If you can post a few screenshots then we may be able to give more specific advice.

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### Author: ![NoobForSlicer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/noobforslicer/32/10900_2.png) [@NoobForSlicer](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/NoobForSlicer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/3 "2019-11-12T03:59:52Z")

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Nothing helps…  
I actually didn’t create any segmentation until first cropping file

here is screenshot  
hhmm how do I add screenshot to reply…

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### Author: ![NoobForSlicer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/noobforslicer/32/10900_2.png) [@NoobForSlicer](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/NoobForSlicer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/4 "2019-11-12T04:00:51Z")

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![what%20i%20had%20enabled](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/9/0/9037e62e9005006b3bd6fb86fa519a9f29fe03dc.jpeg)

here it is… this is how i cropped it

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### Author: ![NoobForSlicer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/noobforslicer/32/10900_2.png) [@NoobForSlicer](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/NoobForSlicer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/5 "2019-11-12T04:04:47Z")

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just closed slicer and opened new slicer, loaded in the new file… nothing happens, still  
each pixel on images\>\> corresponds pixels on segmentations

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### Author: ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 4:14am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/6 "2019-11-12T04:14:54Z")

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The new volume that “Crop volume” module creates has much higher resolution than the original, so you can create segmentation with smooth edges. Make sure you click on Apply in Crop volume and when you go to Segment Editor module, choose the high-resolution volume to define the segmentation geometry (see instructions [here](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/cannot-apply-threshold-on-roi/7269/2)).

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### Author: ![NoobForSlicer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/noobforslicer/32/10900_2.png) [@NoobForSlicer](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/NoobForSlicer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/7 "2019-11-12T04:42:13Z")

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why do I have to crop at all, I just loaded in the normal nrrd and just enabled high resolution by splitting voxels… hmm

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### Author: ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/8 "2019-11-12T04:49:33Z")

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Crop volume can do cropping and resampling at once because typically you need to do both (without cropping, the supersampled volume can be come too big - too many voxels). If the original volume had very low resolution and/or you have enough memory space then you can use the full image region.

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### Author: ![NoobForSlicer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/noobforslicer/32/10900_2.png) [@NoobForSlicer](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/NoobForSlicer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/9 "2019-11-12T04:52:58Z")

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hmm I understand but croping does nothing for me… ☹

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### Author: ![NoobForSlicer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/noobforslicer/32/10900_2.png) [@NoobForSlicer](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/NoobForSlicer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 4:53am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/10 "2019-11-12T04:53:15Z")

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tried it many times… of course i clicked apply as well

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### Author: ![muratmaga](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/muratmaga/32/3622_2.png) [@muratmaga](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/muratmaga)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 5:06am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/11 "2019-11-12T05:06:35Z")

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And you are sure when you open the segment editor and start segmenting after cropping, you are using the “Output Volume” not the “3 Standard Full” as the master volume.

You might want to look at the log file and see if you are running out of memory. Your scale implies 125 fold increase in the volume of the data.

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### Author: ![NoobForSlicer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/noobforslicer/32/10900_2.png) [@NoobForSlicer](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/NoobForSlicer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/segmentation-resolution-problem/9110/12 "2019-11-12T16:29:23Z")

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YEP! I cropped the file indeed I clicked apply but it never cropped because I selected the entire volume which was already quite huge and I added 0.2 spacing… this multiplied the amount of voxels A LOT!

Even though I have over 60 gb of ram, it failed…

Cropping smaller file worked good now
