# Volume rendering preset for 3D transthoracic echocardiography

**URL:** <https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330>\
**Category:** Support\
**Tags:** volume-rendering, heart\
**Created:** [January 4, 2021, 12:28pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330 "2021-01-04T12:28:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Giulia\_Spigariol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/giulia_spigariol/32/9046_2.png) [@Giulia\_Spigariol](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Giulia_Spigariol)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:28pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/1 "2021-01-04T12:28:06Z")

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Operating system: Windows 10  
Slicer version: 4.11  
Expected behavior:  
Actual behavior:

Good morning,  
I’m interested in doing a volume rendering of a 3D transtoracic echocardiography. I was wondering where I can find presets (there are none in the selection box) and which have I would have to use.

Thanks so much  
Giulia

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**Author:** ![cpinter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/cpinter/32/7995_2.png) [@cpinter](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/cpinter)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/2 "2021-01-04T14:00:59Z")

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There should be many presets in the selection combobox. If you try the latest preview version is it also empty?

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**Author:** ![Giulia\_Spigariol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/giulia_spigariol/32/9046_2.png) [@Giulia\_Spigariol](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Giulia_Spigariol)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/3 "2021-01-04T14:16:36Z")

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Yes, I have the latest version but no presets at all! Is there a place where I can download them?

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**Author:** ![cpinter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/cpinter/32/7995_2.png) [@cpinter](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/cpinter)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/4 "2021-01-04T14:31:09Z")

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You shouldn’t need to download anything, they are part of the Slicer installer. The presets combobox should look like this:

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/3/8/38a7ff5ec3dd64984755dd2b50aad0a7763cf6b6.jpeg)

What operating system do you use? How did you install Slicer? What does the preset list look like?

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**Author:** ![Giulia\_Spigariol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/giulia_spigariol/32/9046_2.png) [@Giulia\_Spigariol](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Giulia_Spigariol)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/5 "2021-01-04T14:49:54Z")

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I managed to find them just downloading and installing Slicer again, thank you so much!

Do you know which preset I should use for a transtoracic echocardiography?

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**Author:** ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/6 "2021-01-04T16:01:06Z")

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Ultrasound presets have not been released publicly yet. Moreover, we switched to using special depth-encoded coloring for rendering echo volume to match how they are displayed on the cart:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/a/8/a85ccbec2e6238945de6e188cb01a4cd511fb741.jpeg)  
(source: [Nam et al., JASE 2020](https://www.onlinejase.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0894-7317%2820%2930033-X))

I’ll ask when the presets are planned to be released and report back here.

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**Author:** ![FloCo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/2bfe46/32.png) [@FloCo](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/FloCo)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/7 "2022-06-15T12:58:18Z")

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Hello @lassoan,

I am also interested in those presets, do you have any news on this topic ?

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**Author:** ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/8 "2022-06-16T13:28:35Z")

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We’ll release the heart echo volume renderer, leaflet segmentation, etc. modules when our paper describing the platform gets accepted. The paper was rejected from a few journals the reviews we got from the last one is quite promising, so I see a good chance that the paper will be accepted soon and the modules will go public within a few months.

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**Author:** ![FloCo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/2bfe46/32.png) [@FloCo](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/FloCo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/9 "2022-06-16T13:41:44Z")

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Thank you for your answer ! can’t wait to see this module !

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**Author:** ![Tommaso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Tommaso](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Tommaso)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:58am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/10 "2022-09-12T09:58:06Z")

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Hello @lassoan,

I noticed that the article has been published, congratulations 🥳 !

When are you planning the release of all those interesting modules?  
I am looking forward to use them!

Tommaso

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**Author:** ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/11 "2022-09-12T13:58:19Z")

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Yes, the [SlicerHeart paper](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2022.886549/pdf) has been published, and all the stable modules along with it. They are all in SlicerHeart extension, for Slicer-5.0.3 and later. If you don’t find any particular feature then let us know.

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**Author:** ![Tommaso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Tommaso](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Tommaso)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 7:54am UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/12 "2022-09-14T07:54:53Z")

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Hello @lassoan, I started using SlicerHeart with Slicer 5.0.3 and I am having the following issues:

1. I can’t import the data from a GE Vivid 3 US machine. In Slicer 4.11 I had a GE dll to import them, but know it doesn’t seem to work now.  
I obtain the following warning:  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/5/0/50c31bf33d46f71cacbfe2cfbc8566c8650746a8.png)  
and when I check the imported file this is what appears:  

2. I can create the smoothed volume using the Echo Volume Render, but then I do not have any response from the other parameters of the command:  

Would you please help me?

Thank you very much,

Tommaso

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**Author:** ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/13 "2022-09-15T16:40:19Z")

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> [@Tommaso](#):
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> I can’t import the data from a GE Vivid 3 US machine. In Slicer 4.11 I had a GE dll to import them, but know it doesn’t seem to work now.

I’ve just tested this in Slicer-5.0.3 and it still works well.  
Have you registered the GE loader by running `regsvr32 Image3dLoaderGe.dll`?

> [@Tommaso](#):
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> I can create the smoothed volume using the Echo Volume Render, but then I do not have any response from the other parameters of the command:

I’ve tested this and it works well for me. Do you see any errors in the application log?

> [@Tommaso](#):
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> Moreover, I can’t find the US preset depicted in the article in the Volume Render preset:

Slicer core Volume Rendering module can do basic rendering without depth-dependent coloring. Some presets are created for this and you can see them in your screenshot (4 presets in the first row in the right; two presets in the second row in the left).

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**Author:** ![Tommaso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Tommaso](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/Tommaso)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/14 "2022-09-16T12:45:55Z")

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Hi @lassoan,

I checked the reg variable and it seems ok. Can it be some kind of error due to the fact that I have both version 4.11 and 5.0.3 on my machine?  
Moreover I get this errors when I import the US data:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/a/2/a212cd6934e62e0ac3f1a1e5c5c2d30b5312dd02.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/0/5/052860a3bc7597ae4a5ef316dabe3e1f50dbad4b.png)

Can you help me?

P.s. the US Render now works properly (I don’t know why 😅)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/slicer/original/3X/9/2/9245af24f69f25329ac4e483075750704ecf914b.png)

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**Author:** ![lassoan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.slicer.org/lassoan/32/13_2.png) [@lassoan](https://discourse.slicer.org/u/lassoan)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://discourse.slicer.org/t/volume-rendering-preset-for-3d-transthoracic-echocardiography/15330/15 "2022-09-16T13:44:04Z")

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> [@Tommaso](#):
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> Can it be some kind of error due to the fact that I have both version 4.11 and 5.0.3 on my machine?

That is not a problem, it is completely fine to have any number of Slicer version on your machine.

> [@Tommaso](#):
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> Moreover I get this errors when I import the US data:

The error message indicates that the GE image loader is installed and the image passed basic content check by Slicer (seems to be a GE 4D US image), but the loader fails to load the image (cannot decode it). Maybe you can try a different version of the loader. If none of them work then I would recommend to contact GE.